Not exactly sure if this is the proper place to post, since I usually put anything in ramdom thoughts; but here it goes:

What do you miss internally?
What is that thing (if you can identify it) that would make you feel complete and satisfied. Something that you had once and lost it, or never had and it and have been internally wishing without knowing? Or are you absolutely sure what you lack but it appears impossible, or needs to be worked on for long to get it?.

I dont know, but I'm trying to figure that out....having a hell of a time doing it. Just leaving me confused......there's something missing, though. I can feel it.

For me, its good luck. If I have it all is well, and if I don't, nothing is.

What would make me feel complete and satisfied? Really good drugs, or.....not worrying about what would make me feel complete and satisfied.

The reason most people never find happiness is that they never learn to stop chasing it. Blame our consumption driven culture for a large part of that.

love. unfortunately. my life lacks it.

What would make me feel complete and satisfied? Really good drugs, or.....not worrying about what would make me feel complete and satisfied.

The reason most people never find happiness is that they never learn to stop chasing it. Blame our consumption driven culture for a large part of that.Then we need awareness of our mediocre frame of mind, to realise things that help us stay content, no?

Then we need awareness of our mediocre frame of mind, to realise things that help us stay content, no?Yours might be mediocre. Mines usually downright shitty! lol But yeah....or good drugs.

Mine goes through so many changes, I need all the help I can get.

Mine goes through so many changes, I need all the help I can get.Pot and the Tao Te Ching are mostly what keep me sane. We all need something, that's for sure.

I wish I did more of those two myself. :)

what is sane and normal, though?

I won't be fully satisfied until I live off of the bounty the wilderness provides completely independent from others and completely free from any power other than God. He has told me what I can and cannot do, and mankind does not need to add what they think about it. He has taken care of the law making process and He has taken care of the justice system.

what is sane and normal, though?Sane, to me, is being in harmony with one's self and the laws of nature. Sane and normal though,.......that's a hard one! :)

Well if you're 'insane' either its just a meaningless label society puts on you because they don't understand you, or it means that your mind does things that you can't control (negative things). Although this is more accurately mental illness, some instances could be called insanity IMO.


Normal is bullshit. If you're normal, you're brainwashed and faceless. Normal is a very bad thing to be

Well if you're 'insane' either its just a meaningless label society puts on you because they don't understand you, or it means that your mind does things that you can't control (negative things). Although this is more accurately mental illness, some instances could be called insanity IMO.


Normal is bullshit. If you're normal, you're brainwashed and faceless. Normal is a very bad thing to be"Insane" is a meaningless label I put on society because I don't understand society. hehe For me it's synonomous with "normal".

I understand society all too well, and have seen way too much off the same thing. Everywhere you go, things just look exactly the same, all the people say the exact same things, dress the same way, participate in the same activities, use the same three chords for all of their 'songs', and etc.


In the ideal world, everything is unpredictable. You feel most alive when you're in a new environment with exciting twists and turns, new smells, and sounds, and things to touch. That's why tripping or being a child is so much fun, because you experience new things whereever you are. In society, things just get dull and cliche after a few years (Pink Floyd- Comfortably Numb)

We shouldn't be living life knowing what tomorrow will bring and without any feeling or anything unexpected. Where would hope fit into a predictable world? If you know what is coming next, then you can't hope for something better, right?

Society is everything that is not human. It turns us into robots, and depressed ones at that.

I understand society all too well, and have seen way too much off the same thing. Everywhere you go, things just look exactly the same, all the people say the exact same things, dress the same way, participate in the same activities, use the same three chords for all of their 'songs', and etc.


In the ideal world, everything is unpredictable. You feel most alive when you're in a new environment with exciting twists and turns, new smells, and sounds, and things to touch. That's why tripping or being a child is so much fun, because you experience new things whereever you are. In society, things just get dull and cliche after a few years (Pink Floyd- Comfortably Numb)

We shouldn't be living life knowing what tomorrow will bring and without any feeling or anything unexpected. Where would hope fit into a predictable world? If you know what is coming next, then you can't hope for something better, right?

Society is everything that is not human. It turns us into robots, and depressed ones at that.I couldn't agree more. These are all very good reasons for being a hippie IMHO! You walk down the street and see the people all going through the motions of being good robots looking exactly like all the other robots in a city that looks mass produced and hommogeneous and then here comes someone boogyin' down the street wearing something colorfull and unique with beads, patches, with blue hair maybe, or a big crazy looking hat or something....it's like a breath of freash air in a place that smells stale and sterile.

You can't make life perfect, but you can make it interesting, which is important work; given how many people are making it boring in the process of trying to make it perfect.

Yeah I'm exactly who I want to be thankfully, and I assume you are too haha. If we weren't then the world would just be that much grayer. Hippy music festivals are the places where humanity is at its best. They usually have the best modern music, so many unique people, a loving environment, usually wilderness is close at hand, and there is no authority besides whichever ones you chose to follow. If there was a place to live at that was like a permenant fest, that just may be paradise.


There are paradises all over the place though. All you have to do is smile and receive one from some one else.

Yeah I'm exactly who I want to be thankfully, and I assume you are too haha. If we weren't then the world would just be that much grayer. Hippy music festivals are the places where humanity is at its best. They usually have the best modern music, so many unique people, a loving environment, usually wilderness is close at hand, and there is no authority besides whichever ones you chose to follow. If there was a place to live at that was like a permenant fest, that just may be paradise.


There are paradises all over the place though. All you have to do is smile and receive one from some one else.I wish there were more hippie music festivals here in western WA. All the rain here is probably the reason there aren't. The Seattle hemp fest is probably the closest thing.

Well if you feel like travelling down to California I know there's some fantastic ones. If not, travel east and meet me at one of the many fests haha.

Love. At the moment, I feel more loved then usual. But without it, I have no confidence. If I sense or feel that someone is mad w/ me, I am uselss.

You know Vana, you're very right. I didn't realize that was true about myself, but it is. Currently I have a friend mad at me for an unknown reason and honestly it's eating me alive. Thanks for helping me realize that, its a good lesson.

which astrological sign are you?

I can relate as well, though I think I'm getting better with that. It used to be that I just couldn't stand to have anyone mad at me for any reason at all, but in the last two or three years I've had two or three people develop unreasonable grudges toward me, and I think I'm developing a thicker skin.

Bigblondafro, you have a tough one in not knowing the reason. I always try to determine what the beef is, if possible, then decide---often with helpful feedback from friends whether it's legit or if it's just some unreasonable blaming.

If I decide it's legit I try to make amends however I can, but if I talk it over with a trusted friend an the two of us decide it's just BS, I seem to be able to brush it off pretty well---even when I'm living with them.

I was in a situation several months ago where a roommate had a dangerous dog of his get loose and attack a neighborhood boy. Even though I managed to save the boy, though I ended up getting hurt myself, The roommate and his girlfriend were pissed at me because I didn't have the presence of mind to get contact info from the boy that got attacked so that they could call his parents.

I just wasn't able to think of it at the time---I was too shook up by the whole thing to really think that clearly. My roommate pretty much forgave me but his girlfriend never did for the rest of the time I lived there. But after talking to a friend about it and the boy's parents, who only lived a block away, it was clear that the grudge she had was completely unreasonable.

I probably could have seen that for myself, but it still helps to have an objective outside opinion confirm it. I don't think anyone gets through life without stepping on toes now and then, but a lot of people are pretty unfair about it too , and when they are, just figure it's their problem not yours.

Hope. Could do with a good dose of nice, promising, hope.

For me it comes down to freedom...even money to exercise that freedom.

O sorry for not responding Vana, I fell asleep :)


I'm a sagitarius if that matters, I'm not a big follower of astrological signs. If someone tells me personally what my future will be because of astrological signs, I'll believe them if I know they're not just making it up. But I can't bring myself to fully believe the newspaper ones, because those are just generalizations that can be interpreted so many millions of ways.

Yeah groovecookie, I see what you mean with that one. The friend I'm currently having trouble with was my good buddy for the last five years. Both me and him were completely ignorant of the school social loop and managed to stay out of it very well. Last winter however, he out of the blue started drinking every weekend with a very average group of friends, started acting very different, and pretty much shunned me. It really bothered me because it made me feel as if something was wrong with me.

Then this summer we were good buds again, but as soon as school started this year he's back to his old antics, but even worse than before. Now he hangs out with the same people me and him used to look down upon as sheep and treats them like closer friends than me. It doesn't bother me nearly as much as last year, because I'm beginning to see that he is addicted to being the center of attention and will do whatever it takes to be in the limelight, even if it means dropping his best friends.

Childish isn't it?

O sorry for not responding Vana, I fell asleep :)


I'm a sagitarius if that matters, I'm not a big follower of astrological signs. If someone tells me personally what my future will be because of astrological signs, I'll believe them if I know they're not just making it up. But I can't bring myself to fully believe the newspaper ones, because those are just generalizations that can be interpreted so many millions of ways.

Yeah groovecookie, I see what you mean with that one. The friend I'm currently having trouble with was my good buddy for the last five years. Both me and him were completely ignorant of the school social loop and managed to stay out of it very well. Last winter however, he out of the blue started drinking every weekend with a very average group of friends, started acting very different, and pretty much shunned me. It really bothered me because it made me feel as if something was wrong with me.

Then this summer we were good buds again, but as soon as school started this year he's back to his old antics, but even worse than before. Now he hangs out with the same people me and him used to look down upon as sheep and treats them like closer friends than me. It doesn't bother me nearly as much as last year, because I'm beginning to see that he is addicted to being the center of attention and will do whatever it takes to be in the limelight, even if it means dropping his best friends.

Childish isn't it?That happens. Things probly havnen't changed much since I was in highschool. It's all about cliques. When I was in highschool there were the preps, the punks, and the stoners. I smoked with the stoners once in a while but never did really get into any clique. I was a loner. That was my clique. Me, myself, and I. Sad, huh? :(

No, not sad at all actually. I'm a loner and proud of it. If I was part of any crowd, I would hate myself for it. If you look at all the cliques out there, the people involved all listen to the same music, participate in the same activities, dress alike, talk similar, and hate/ like the same people. There is no crowd out there that is that similar to me. In my middle school/ early high school years I was once a part of basically every crowd but the jocks, but never stayed with one for more than a few months.

This summer I realized how futile it is to be a part of a clique, because then all the negative stereotypes associated with them are associated with yourself, and because then you are no longer an individual, but just a part of a whole, a follower.

In my books, there are two basic types of loners. There are the loners who hate being alone and think there is something wrong with themselves. Then there are the loner who are confident and know they are right. They float over top of the social scene and are generally adored by many and hated by many. This type of person is generally a dominant person and can easily lead large groups, but instead opts to have a few close friends and many acquaintances.

I was originally the first type until I got into psychedelic and learned that I am unique and proud of being who I am. Now instead of being rejected, many crowds accept me and are fascinated by the odd stuff I do. I'd bet money you're one of these individuals as well.

You have to embrace yourself before you can embrace others. Every single leader or revolutionary in history was a loner, but they learned to use this to their advantage. What I've noticed is that every loner who learns to love him or herself is also very intelligent and have a very good sense of humor.

/tangent

Oh god. I ask myself this question every day. A lot of times I would say that it is love, like theongoingwow, but I feel that one can't rely on another person to fill a part of you. I know that is cliche... but it's true. No one is truly reliable, even if everyone's beautiful.
I think that, right now, I find a lot of that happiness in art and painting.

Good first post! Yeah through the hard way I too have learned that you can't rely on people to ever do what they are saying they will, which makes everyone hypocrits and liars. But you must connect with at least a few of these people in order to make life a little more pleasureable. The one person you must rely on is the love of your life. If you don't trust each other enough to lean on each other, then how are you in love? With this clause comes the fact that lovers will let each other down, but these are just tests to see if you are truely in love.


Do you make a living painting?

No, not sad at all actually. I'm a loner and proud of it. If I was part of any crowd, I would hate myself for it. If you look at all the cliques out there, the people involved all listen to the same music, participate in the same activities, dress alike, talk similar, and hate/ like the same people. There is no crowd out there that is that similar to me. In my middle school/ early high school years I was once a part of basically every crowd but the jocks, but never stayed with one for more than a few months.

This summer I realized how futile it is to be a part of a clique, because then all the negative stereotypes associated with them are associated with yourself, and because then you are no longer an individual, but just a part of a whole, a follower.

In my books, there are two basic types of loners. There are the loners who hate being alone and think there is something wrong with themselves. Then there are the loner who are confident and know they are right. They float over top of the social scene and are generally adored by many and hated by many. This type of person is generally a dominant person and can easily lead large groups, but instead opts to have a few close friends and many acquaintances.

I was originally the first type until I got into psychedelic and learned that I am unique and proud of being who I am. Now instead of being rejected, many crowds accept me and are fascinated by the odd stuff I do. I'd bet money you're one of these individuals as well.

You have to embrace yourself before you can embrace others. Every single leader or revolutionary in history was a loner, but they learned to use this to their advantage. What I've noticed is that every loner who learns to love him or herself is also very intelligent and have a very good sense of humor.

/tangentWell, you're right, I'd rather have been a lonely individualist than a popular follow-the-flock type. It is sad how lonely I was though. Thank god I finally stopped believing in the separation hallucination.:)

I need constant joy...naturally. Don't like empty boring feelings, and I don't think they have to be there, but get there because of natural causes which can include certain foods, and actions.

Meeting great shinning souls has so much power!

I need constant joy...naturally. Don't like empty boring feelings, and I don't think they have to be there, but get there because of natural causes which can include certain foods, and actions.

Meeting great shinning souls has so much power!http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u103/transcyclesectorsix/yinyang-2.jpg

In my opinion, if you are having empty, boring feelings often, then you are living life wrong. Something in your life must not be right. The title of this thread demonstrates this as a matter of fact. If you feel empty or bored, something must be changed, you must need something. For me I need to be free of society and free of unjust power. And until you right the wrong, you'll continue to get these feelings with increasing frequency and depth.

I think you may have that wrong. I'm speaking in general...as in we need constant joy which for me is normal. And if we get depressed or lack joy, then we must acknowledge that we are out of sync, and need to get back to normal.

When we focus on money, company, or other things to fulfill us, we miss the mark, because the effect cannot come before the cause.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. If you are out of sync, then something has to be causing that. Sometimes it's just in your head, but sometimes there is something wrong with the way your life is that needs to be changed before you can truely be filled with happiness. To get back to 'normal' we have to right the wrongs to achieve inner peace

My belief is that no amount of spirituality, enlightenment , material gain or lifestyle choice can bring unending joy without suffering.
Joy is to suffering as up is to down or as front is to back. We have to experience both to experience either. It's the relative nature of things. That was what I was trying to say with the yin-yang in my last post. I know that viewpoint isn't likely to be a popular one.....I'm not crazy about it myself, but I have to choose my beliefs by what seems true, whether it's what I want to be true or not.

I do believe one can transcend both, but having one without the other is impossible IMHO.

No, you are very right about that. Sometimes I forget that fact, but I try not to. Nature demonstrates it very well with Summer and Winter, Birth and Death, Rain and Sunshine, Moon and Sun, Day and Night, etc. Unending joy or unending pain is to be found in the afterlife, depending on how you did on Earth. I'm still forming an opinion on reincarnation, but currently I'm fairly sure that we have one conscious, one body, and one chance to live life. You must make the best of it while living morally and simply. We're only here for a short time, so live the way you want. Anything that happens on this Earth is so ridiculously temporary, yet we are weak. Every human complains about how much they suffer, but if they knew what the future held, then they would smile and laugh.


If you live right, unending joy awaits you. The challenge you now face is, how do I pass the time we live here and end up with my head in paradise?

Thanks for correcting me, you put some good thoughts in my head.

No, you are very right about that. Sometimes I forget that fact, but I try not to. Nature demonstrates it very well with Summer and Winter, Birth and Death, Rain and Sunshine, Moon and Sun, Day and Night, etc. Unending joy or unending pain is to be found in the afterlife, depending on how you did on Earth. I'm still forming an opinion on reincarnation, but currently I'm fairly sure that we have one conscious, one body, and one chance to live life. You must make the best of it while living morally and simply. We're only here for a short time, so live the way you want. Anything that happens on this Earth is so ridiculously temporary, yet we are weak. Every human complains about how much they suffer, but if they knew what the future held, then they would smile and laugh.


If you live right, unending joy awaits you. The challenge you now face is, how do I pass the time we live here and end up with my head in paradise?

Thanks for correcting me, you put some good thoughts in my head.
So you believe the one sided coin that cannot exist in this life will exist in the next? And do you really believe that those who live in paradise can be happy knowing that people they love who went to the other place are suffering forever?

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. If you are out of sync, then something has to be causing that. Sometimes it's just in your head, but sometimes there is something wrong with the way your life is that needs to be changed before you can truely be filled with happiness. To get back to 'normal' we have to right the wrongs to achieve inner peaceAgreed.

It's true and I have examined this issue well ( the pairs of opposites) One example:

Winter is cold and summer is hot.
Some-- or most people, love summer and hate winter, but others (fewer) have come love both- and find activities more suited for each season, and welcome with open arms the contrasting change when it comes, because there are rewards in both, if we have a variety of interests, because this change brings balance, and actually, it is a more joyous experience to enjoy two contrasting pairs than only one.

This can be applied to various issues like: Losing or findings things, being alone or with many people, having a mate or a period with no one, undergoing a great creative period or an empty one, being full of energy or drained of it.

The key is to love both sides equally and seeing them as a constructive pair.

To see first, how one makes the other more real, and how one exists so that we can be grateful for the other, that one IS so that the other can BE, also.

The Pairs can be countless, but the essential principle will always be the same.

I believe that life itself teaches us that we are not here to lament constantly, but to rejoice and be at peace with ourselves, and the many changes that are part of life in general;and if we miss this important point, then we will miserable constantly instead of satisfied constantly.

It's true and I have examined this issue well ( the pairs of opposites) One example:

Winter is cold and summer is hot.
Some-- or most people, love summer and hate winter, but others (fewer) have come love both- and find activities more suited for each season, and welcome with open arms the contrasting change when it comes, because there are rewards in both, if we have a variety of interests, because this change brings balance, and actually, it is a more joyous experience to enjoy two contrasting pairs than only one.

This can be applied to various issues like: Losing or findings things, being alone or with many people, having a mate or a period with no one, undergoing a great creative period or an empty one, being full of energy or drained of it.

The key is to love both sides equally and seeing them as a constructive pair.

To see first, how one makes the other more real, and how one exists so that we can be grateful for the other, that one IS so that the other can BE, also.

The Pairs can be countless, but the essential principle will always be the same.

I believe that life itself teaches us that we are not here to lament constantly, but to rejoice and be at peace with ourselves, and the many changes that are part of life in general;and if we miss this important point, then we will miserable constantly instead of satisfied constantly.For the most part I agree, regarding such things as summer and winter, day and night, it's most often a choice to see it in a positive light or a negative one. But when it comes to things such as the loss of a loved one or other excruciating emotional or physical pain, trying to look at it in a positive light has, in my experience been fairly ineffective and to not react to those things under the conditions that cause them hardly seems human.

I suffer from chronic depression...some components are my mental cognitions toward what I experience, but a large part of it seems to just happen on it's own as the way my body chemistry works. The outward symptoms, such as low motivation, crying, being quiet and withdrawn those things I have little control over.

But on a deep inner level I seem to be slowly learning to disassociate...or maybe transcend is a better word. It has to do with letting go of the concept of the separate self (which is ultimately an illusion of the mind).

The identification with this self that resists pain and seeks pleasure is what makes the real pain in life so unbearable. But the more I can defocus on that notion of a me that is experiencing the pain and, in a way, become one with the pain, the experience changes.

Slowly I am beginning to understand a passage in the Tao Te Ching that says something to the effect that one who becomes one with loss does not experience it. And another, slightly metaphorical passage that states "misfortune comes from having a body...without a body, how can their be misfortune?"

I don't think it's the body it's self, but the perception of such that it speaks of not having. In reality, one's body is the whole universe, but such is our experience in life that causes us to think of our skin as the outer boundry of ourselves when really it's only the perception that makes it seem true.

So when I find myself really hurting, I work on disolving that sense of being a self and begin to shift into a different mode....I call it minusmode, which to me means minus self. It doesn't illiminate all the outward symptoms than mostly are body reactions, but it has been a long time since my depression has brought me to a state of becomming suicidal or requiring hospitalization.

Well it's interesting food for thought anyway.

So you believe the one sided coin that cannot exist in this life will exist in the next? And do you really believe that those who live in paradise can be happy knowing that people they love who went to the other place are suffering forever?

It's a complicated belief, that's for sure. I believe we can only understand parts of the afterlife. The only being that can understand the afterlife is God, just as the only being that can create all life and end all life is God. I don't profess to understand it at all, but I do believe that there is a heaven and hell.

What I believe in is not the typical Western view of heaven or hell, nor is it any of the Eastern views on them. It is plain to see that in this life, not all good behaviour gets rewarded, and not all bad behavior is punished. Karma balances out a lot with rewards and punishments, but the afterlife is the ultimate result of our desicions here on Earth. Every choice we make is a test God has put there for us, and He knows what decision we will make even though he did not make the decision for us.

Here's were things start to really get complex. If what I just said is true, then God knows who will go to hell, and he allows it to happen. This is an aenigma that I haven't figured out yet, and I believe no one ever will but God himself. No one deserves an eternity of punishment, but none of us deserve an eternity of pleasure either. But we as humans are not meant to understand the afterlife, it will be a permanent dead end of thought. That's the point of religion, the point of beliefs. You must make a leap into the unknown.

My philosophy is that if you go through life living as morally as possible, then you can't lose. If there isn't an afterlife, then what have you lost? If there is an afterlife and a heaven, then look at what you have gained! You have to trust in God, however you interpret him, to take care of you. Maybe those who go to hell don't spend an eternity there, maybe the afterlife is completely different to what we think it is. But in the end, does it matter what happens after we die? Does it help us to know what happens? No, it doesn't. As humans we are curious about the afterlife and desire to know what happens. We shouldn't worry about it, it's not our duty to know. We are here to live, love, and spread life and love.

It's a complicated belief, that's for sure. I believe we can only understand parts of the afterlife. The only being that can understand the afterlife is God, just as the only being that can create all life and end all life is God. I don't profess to understand it at all, but I do believe that there is a heaven and hell.

What I believe in is not the typical Western view of heaven or hell, nor is it any of the Eastern views on them. It is plain to see that in this life, not all good behaviour gets rewarded, and not all bad behavior is punished. Karma balances out a lot with rewards and punishments, but the afterlife is the ultimate result of our desicions here on Earth. Every choice we make is a test God has put there for us, and He knows what decision we will make even though he did not make the decision for us.

Here's were things start to really get complex. If what I just said is true, then God knows who will go to hell, and he allows it to happen. This is an aenigma that I haven't figured out yet, and I believe no one ever will but God himself. No one deserves an eternity of punishment, but none of us deserve an eternity of pleasure either. But we as humans are not meant to understand the afterlife, it will be a permanent dead end of thought. That's the point of religion, the point of beliefs. You must make a leap into the unknown.

My philosophy is that if you go through life living as morally as possible, then you can't lose. If there isn't an afterlife, then what have you lost? If there is an afterlife and a heaven, then look at what you have gained! You have to trust in God, however you interpret him, to take care of you. Maybe those who go to hell don't spend an eternity there, maybe the afterlife is completely different to what we think it is. But in the end, does it matter what happens after we die? Does it help us to know what happens? No, it doesn't. As humans we are curious about the afterlife and desire to know what happens. We shouldn't worry about it, it's not our duty to know. We are here to live, love, and spread life and love.Well, I like you, bigblondafro and hope you don't get pissed at me like another guy on hipforums did. I liked him too, still do, but I get down on christianity a lot....I guess you could say I have issues....he got pissed. Not that I lost sleep, but I felt bad that he saw things in such a way as to percieve my attacking his religion as attacking him.

It seems to be hard to make it clear that hating Christianity is not the same as hating Christians.

At least you recognise that no one deserves to suffer unendingly for ever, that is my biggest beef with Christianity.

But , I think it is a beautiful thing for a Christian, or a person of any religion to just live thier life trusting that life is ultimately good and trying to be part of the goodness as much as they can, as long as they don't think that that involves hurting children with guilt and shame or using thier beliefs as a basis for hate.

No way man, you're on of the good guys on these forums. I like to explain my beliefs to people and it doesn't offend me at all if someone believes different. Now I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm a Christian, while I do identify with a lot of the beliefs from that religions. The Christian religion suffers HEAVILY from human corruption and to really get to the meat of what the Bible really says, you have to sort through a lot of manmade garbage made for profit.


The Catholic church in its original form was as underground and taboo as the hippy movement, but as it gained popularity, many people saw an oppurtunity for profit. The modern Catholic church and the modern concept of the Christian religion is an absolute joke as compared to what I believe reality is. Needless rituals, the selling of pardons, holier-than-thou attitudes, the rich control the church (and the church controls many governments), and brainwashing of the youth and many others are just a few problems that plaque the modern church.

But this isn't to say that the core beliefs of the Christian church are wrong. The core beliefs of nearly all religions in the world have very solid information involved, and to know your own religion well, you must learn as much as you can about every religion out there. (I dunno about satanism though, that is idol worship as far as I'm concerned).

Many Eastern religions have a lot to teach us about how to live our lives and go much more in depth than Christianity . If you combine the core beliefs of Christianity with the life philosophies of many Eastern religions, you really get an idea of how God wants all of us to live.

No way man, you're on of the good guys on these forums. I like to explain my beliefs to people and it doesn't offend me at all if someone believes different. Now I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm a Christian, while I do identify with a lot of the beliefs from that religions. The Christian religion suffers HEAVILY from human corruption and to really get to the meat of what the Bible really says, you have to sort through a lot of manmade garbage made for profit.


The Catholic church in its original form was as underground and taboo as the hippy movement, but as it gained popularity, many people saw an oppurtunity for profit. The modern Catholic church and the modern concept of the Christian religion is an absolute joke as compared to what I believe reality is. Needless rituals, the selling of pardons, holier-than-thou attitudes, the rich control the church (and the church controls many governments), and brainwashing of the youth and many others are just a few problems that plaque the modern church.

But this isn't to say that the core beliefs of the Christian church are wrong. The core beliefs of nearly all religions in the world have very solid information involved, and to know your own religion well, you must learn as much as you can about every religion out there. (I dunno about satanism though, that is idol worship as far as I'm concerned).

Many Eastern religions have a lot to teach us about how to live our lives and go much more in depth than Christianity . If you combine the core beliefs of Christianity with the life philosophies of many Eastern religions, you really get an idea of how God wants all of us to live.I look at all religions as the creations of institutions established for the control of populations. These institutions make gods of wise teachers of the past and use their ideas and add thier own embellishments....they use what's true and right to create elaborate belief structures that are not so much true and right as designed to make people behave themselves and do what the institution tells them.

Blind faith, a core value of Christianity, which is basically hog-tying rationality with the belief that you are neither capable of understanding nor meant to understand, is the tool with which the institution of Christianity sells the masses a whole, largely nonsensical, belief structure which has some beautiful aspects, but some very ugly and harmfull ones, too.

My concept of faith is not accepting a belief structure from a book or institution that is supposedly holy.
My concept of faith is simply observing life and nature and accepting it as being what it is simply because that's what it is. Relative explanations always call for further relative explanations. For every answer to every question why?, there is another question why?....unless you just accept that it simply is.

So I am simply because it is the nature of being for me to be, not because another being decided to create me. I am kind to others because it's in my nature to care about them. Not because I will be rewarded or punished in an afterlife.
Accepting nature as simply being what it is and trusting it to do what it does is all the faith anyone really needs.

Unless one wants to use and control others. Then one needs religion.

Yeah I understand you, I've had similar thoughts in my life, and believe, I don't act morally simply for the reward. If you do good deeds and such not, it does in fact make everyone happier who is around you.


I often wonder whether or not my beliefs or religion are from being forcefed it as a child. But if I took your approach and made my beliefs from what I observed around me, I believe that I would come up with the exact same conclusion.

I believe in adaptation, not in evolution. The fundamental thought of evolution just makes no sense to me. They want you to believe that back before life on Earth, it was an environment harsher than the barren surface of mars. And out of all this, a series of millions of chemicals just so happened to assemble and bond into a living bacteria. Bacteria in and of themselves are so very complex that to say it would spontaneously assemble is just as unlikely and impossible as taking a one million piece jigsaw puzzle, dumping it on the ground, and having it assemble itself just by how the pieces fell. Now I don't care how many billions of years you repeat this, the puzzle isn't going to fit together without someone putting it together.

This is why I believe in a God figure, something had to have assemble all that we see and all that we are. The concept of infinity is also in my opinion, proof of a God. In math, no one can count all the numbers. If the universe is infact infinite in its bounds, then it is proof of God.

And like I said, I would rather believe in a God and be wrong than not believe in God and be right. One of the saving points of religion is that at the end of the day, you have hope. You know the future is brighter than you can possibly imagine and it helps you live life with a smile. If there were no God and we just were, when we died we just ceased to be, if everything is just here by chance, then where is the hope? Even if my religion is a foolish mind control ploy, well at least I have something to take solace in at the time being.

PS: If I come off as defensive or angry, I'm not. This is enjoyable for me and I've had many debates similar to this, so don't feel like you are offending me. Have a good weekend! I'm off to touch the sky!

I miss ignorance and the feeling not to care and not to know!

Yeah I understand you, I've had similar thoughts in my life, and believe, I don't act morally simply for the reward. If you do good deeds and such not, it does in fact make everyone happier who is around you.


I often wonder whether or not my beliefs or religion are from being forcefed it as a child. But if I took your approach and made my beliefs from what I observed around me, I believe that I would come up with the exact same conclusion.

I believe in adaptation, not in evolution. The fundamental thought of evolution just makes no sense to me. They want you to believe that back before life on Earth, it was an environment harsher than the barren surface of mars. And out of all this, a series of millions of chemicals just so happened to assemble and bond into a living bacteria. Bacteria in and of themselves are so very complex that to say it would spontaneously assemble is just as unlikely and impossible as taking a one million piece jigsaw puzzle, dumping it on the ground, and having it assemble itself just by how the pieces fell. Now I don't care how many billions of years you repeat this, the puzzle isn't going to fit together without someone putting it together.

This is why I believe in a God figure, something had to have assemble all that we see and all that we are. The concept of infinity is also in my opinion, proof of a God. In math, no one can count all the numbers. If the universe is infact infinite in its bounds, then it is proof of God.

And like I said, I would rather believe in a God and be wrong than not believe in God and be right. One of the saving points of religion is that at the end of the day, you have hope. You know the future is brighter than you can possibly imagine and it helps you live life with a smile. If there were no God and we just were, when we died we just ceased to be, if everything is just here by chance, then where is the hope? Even if my religion is a foolish mind control ploy, well at least I have something to take solace in at the time being.

PS: If I come off as defensive or angry, I'm not. This is enjoyable for me and I've had many debates similar to this, so don't feel like you are offending me. Have a good weekend! I'm off to touch the sky! Yeah, one guy got mad a while back because of things I said about Christianity, but you seem to be someone who can just enjoy the discussion. I know a lot

of people feel that without the explanation of a creator, the development of living

organisms can only be explained by some miraculous coincidence. I believe there are two different kinds of causes in the universe:
relative, and absolute. Relative causes are things that happen because of something

else, while absolute causes are things being what they are just because it is the nature

of being it's self for them to be that way. When kids go through thier inquisitive stage they like to repeat thequestion "Why?" If you keep answering their questions, you will run through relative

explanation after relative explanation, but eventually you run out of whys. That's when

you have taken the relative explanation bus all the way to the end of the line. The end

of the line is the absolute. You can't see the absolute. I's existence is like the existence of
mathamatical laws. They don't have their own body (so to speak) that says "Hi I'm

2+2=4." But you know that these laws exists somehow because all that you can see

follows them without fail. True existence is pure essence which can not be percieved by

the senses. All that can be sensed is the expression of this essense which comes about

by the absolute nature of what essense is, just as 2+2=4 not because there is

something visible making it so, it just is because it is.But humans think in relative terms and this concept of the absolute essense of all things is one that runs contrary to that mode of thought, so it's hard for

most people to understand. It makes sense, though, when you realise that if everything

has to be explained in terms of something else, it has to stop somewhere!I don't believe in death as the end of anyone's existence, becausethere is nothing but existence so there is nowhere for anyone to really go. It is only the

visible expression of existence that undergoes the change we call death. People die and

babies are born, and some call it reincarnation, but I just think of it as all one being

constantly renewing it's self through the process of death and birth.

Well that relative and absolute idea is a very good one! To take that idea with my opinion, the relative causes all obey certain rules or laws (laws of physics, mathematics, etc) and where did these rules come from? The answer to that question is an absolute cause, in your terms. In my view, there is only ONE absolute cause, which is the final question of: And why does it have to be that way? Why does 2+2=4? Why does the mass of an object increase as it nears the speed of light? Why do I think the way I do? What is infinity? These are all the same question. And the answer in my opinion, is that the God being made it to be that way. Of course, you either believe that, or you believe what you do, that it is because it is.


And on life and death, I believe there are different dimensions in which life can exist. To explain what one of these dimensions is like to someone who hasn't experienced it would be like trying to explain to a cartoon what 3 dimensions is like, they just wouldn't understand. I have experienced a few of these other places on my journey with psychedelics and in my dreams, and it feels very wierd to be in a place that doesn't follow the same rules we see from second to second. Places where gravity isn't a concept, places where there is no such thing as empty space (in other words, there is matter everywhere, but it is all different, if you follow), places where everything is a white arch, and so on an so forth.

Birth and death aren't starts or stops in existence as much as they are entrances and exits into this life. I think birth is the actually start of a being, and that all being start by being born here on this plane of reality. From there, the human ego develops and grows as the body too develops and grows. After this the body starts to deteriorate, but the mind will continue to wisen if it is kept healthy. The next step is that the body can no longer function, so the ego leaves and goes onto another plane of reality, another dimensions. Maybe the afterlife consists of these different planes? Maybe Hell is one or many or even infinite planes that are full of suffering or unpleasentness and Heaven is just the opposite? Maybe there is no such thing as either, and depending upon the strength of the ego, the being can move to whichever plane they wish? To use the same analogy as before, for us to understand the afterlife, it would be as a cartoon understanding three dimensions.

I can see we have quite opposing views on these matters haha. You believe in one human being, I believe in many, you believe in the 'it is because it is' philosophy, I believe in a God. But I'm glad we can still understand where we each come from.

If there is a heaven, I'm not sure you have to believe in God to get into it. You deserve to go there, babies and children deserve to go there, many people smart and intelligent who just were never relgious deserve to go there. Heaven isn't some exclusive club if it does exist, where is the humanity in that?

Well that relative and absolute idea is a very good one! To take that idea with my opinion, the relative causes all obey certain rules or laws (laws of physics, mathematics, etc) and where did these rules come from? The answer to that question is an absolute cause, in your terms. In my view, there is only ONE absolute cause, which is the final question of: And why does it have to be that way? Why does 2+2=4? Why does the mass of an object increase as it nears the speed of light? Why do I think the way I do? What is infinity? These are all the same question. And the answer in my opinion, is that the God being made it to be that way. Of course, you either believe that, or you believe what you do, that it is because it is.


And on life and death, I believe there are different dimensions in which life can exist. To explain what one of these dimensions is like to someone who hasn't experienced it would be like trying to explain to a cartoon what 3 dimensions is like, they just wouldn't understand. I have experienced a few of these other places on my journey with psychedelics and in my dreams, and it feels very wierd to be in a place that doesn't follow the same rules we see from second to second. Places where gravity isn't a concept, places where there is no such thing as empty space (in other words, there is matter everywhere, but it is all different, if you follow), places where everything is a white arch, and so on an so forth.

Birth and death aren't starts or stops in existence as much as they are entrances and exits into this life. I think birth is the actually start of a being, and that all being start by being born here on this plane of reality. From there, the human ego develops and grows as the body too develops and grows. After this the body starts to deteriorate, but the mind will continue to wisen if it is kept healthy. The next step is that the body can no longer function, so the ego leaves and goes onto another plane of reality, another dimensions. Maybe the afterlife consists of these different planes? Maybe Hell is one or many or even infinite planes that are full of suffering or unpleasentness and Heaven is just the opposite? Maybe there is no such thing as either, and depending upon the strength of the ego, the being can move to whichever plane they wish? To use the same analogy as before, for us to understand the afterlife, it would be as a cartoon understanding three dimensions.

I can see we have quite opposing views on these matters haha. You believe in one human being, I believe in many, you believe in the 'it is because it is' philosophy, I believe in a God. But I'm glad we can still understand where we each come from.

If there is a heaven, I'm not sure you have to believe in God to get into it. You deserve to go there, babies and children deserve to go there, many people smart and intelligent who just were never relgious deserve to go there. Heaven isn't some exclusive club if it does exist, where is the humanity in that?(special note: after unsuccessfully trying to use the indent code to format my writing and make it more easily readable, I decided to hence forth change color with each paragraph instead. More fun that way anyway.) so...

It's good to know that there are thoughtful christians out there, like yourself, who aren't afraid to question ideas such as heaven and hell.
So many christians seem to be convinced that it's a sin to do so. I know I was told when I was a kid that in the days of the old testement, those who didn't accept the teachings of the church were stoned to death
The fanatic that said this went on to say that it would be better if things were like that today because it would save more people from going to hell for ever. It's easy for me to see how a lot of people are just scared to think for themselves at all.
I guess it occurred to me at some point that if there was a God, he wouldn't have given me a mind if he didn't want me to use it. Then the more I used it the more I came to the conclusion there is no God.:)
Of course there are many who call what I do believe in "God", but to me, it is a Christian word describing a Christian deity, and it's a person I know I could never bring myself to even like, let alone love as the christians say I am supposed to.
A lot of people say they are "raised catholic" or whatever other denomination, and they say it as though it means they have no choice but to believe that way. As crazy as it seems, I can kind of understand in a way, because, even though my mind knows better, I feel like some part of me still feels like my soul must be black and corrupted now because I have abandoned religion.
Since accepting doctrines that make no sense to me is not an option, I have to find some other way to change that old programming and reclaim the feelling of innocence I had as a child.
Since things that children absorb at a young age are so permanent in ways, I tend to feel it's wrong to put religious ideas into thier young minds.
If those ideas are so right and true, then why not leave them to see them for themselves when the time is right instead of hammering it into them when they are young so they have no choice?
Of course, intelectually they are free to believe what they choose, but those feelings of guilt and shame instilled early on, when a child's mind is still develloping, are not easy to get rid of.

To be at home with my fiance and my cattle dog.

Yeah I agree with you on that one, telling children what they should or shouldn't believe is a really tough call. If you were the parent, would you want your child to believe what you believe, which in your mind is right, or would you want the child to form his/ her own opinions? Keep in mind that in the modern day and age, with the modern school system, the child would almost definitely come out as a close-minded, aetheistic, democrat with no sense of right or wrong just because that is what is popular at this time.

I personally would choose to tell them what I believe, but educate them on other religions as well. I would give them books and knowledge at a young age, but would not force anything on the child. But in raising a child I would make it of utmost importance to raise an intelligent, independent child who is not concerned about the social ladder or fitting in. This is probably the only way to raise a child who isn't a sheep, although they will probably turn out as a loner, which we discussed earlier.

A close minded,atheistic democrat with no sense of right and wrong!!That's rich.Surely you meant to type republican.

When my kids asked me if there was a god,I told them that they would have to decide for themselves.

My 40 foot catamaran that I was going to sail to the south pacific.

Well when was the last time you looked at the average wasteproducts our high schools are turning out? Everyone is an atheist because its 'cool' and because the school douses us with antireligion sentiments. Everyone is a democrat because thats the 'in' thing now. Its fashionable to call the president a stupid incompetent fucktard whether he is or not, and whether he is even responsible for the mess we've gotten into (do NOT turn this into a politcal debate or I will delete my account). The TV and media fuels this trend and kids think they know so much about politics when all they are doing is playing follow the leader. And every single rodent teenager that comes out of the school nowaday without a single original thought in there head has the notion that their opinion is the only one that matters in the entire world and that they deserve to be king.


But yeah, thats a good answer for your children I didn't think of that one. What kind of catamaran do you own? Me and my family are pretty heavy boaters and I'm considering buying a boat to live on after I graduate from college.

Yeah I agree with you on that one, telling children what they should or shouldn't believe is a really tough call. If you were the parent, would you want your child to believe what you believe, which in your mind is right, or would you want the child to form his/ her own opinions? Keep in mind that in the modern day and age, with the modern school system, the child would almost definitely come out as a close-minded, aetheistic, democrat with no sense of right or wrong just because that is what is popular at this time.

I personally would choose to tell them what I believe, but educate them on other religions as well. I would give them books and knowledge at a young age, but would not force anything on the child. But in raising a child I would make it of utmost importance to raise an intelligent, independent child who is not concerned about the social ladder or fitting in. This is probably the only way to raise a child who isn't a sheep, although they will probably turn out as a loner, which we discussed earlier. Yeah, I think that's how I would treat the subject with my kids (if I ever wind up having any). I'd wait till they start asking questions on their own though, which I think is the best time to teach them about sex, or anything else.
I havn't attended school for 24 years, so I wouldn't venture a guess about what they are teaching kids politically. My impression though is that they aren't so much putting particular views into thier heads as just making sure they aren't taught to think for themselves at all.

Not exactly sure if this is the proper place to post, since I usually put anything in ramdom thoughts; but here it goes:

What do you miss internally?
What is that thing (if you can identify it) that would make you feel complete and satisfied. Something that you had once and lost it, or never had and it and have been internally wishing without knowing? Or are you absolutely sure what you lack but it appears impossible, or needs to be worked on for long to get it?.

i havent read this whole thread but for me itd be love. I get lonely... And my parents.

(special note: after unsuccessfully trying to use the indent code to format my writing and make it more easily readable, I decided to hence forth change color with each paragraph instead. More fun that way anyway.) so...

It's good to know that there are thoughtful christians out there, like yourself, who aren't afraid to question ideas such as heaven and hell.
So many christians seem to be convinced that it's a sin to do so. I know I was told when I was a kid that in the days of the old testement, those who didn't accept the teachings of the church were stoned to death
The fanatic that said this went on to say that it would be better if things were like that today because it would save more people from going to hell for ever. It's easy for me to see how a lot of people are just scared to think for themselves at all.
I guess it occurred to me at some point that if there was a God, he wouldn't have given me a mind if he didn't want me to use it. Then the more I used it the more I came to the conclusion there is no God.:)
Of course there are many who call what I do believe in "God", but to me, it is a Christian word describing a Christian deity, and it's a person I know I could never bring myself to even like, let alone love as the christians say I am supposed to.
A lot of people say they are "raised catholic" or whatever other denomination, and they say it as though it means they have no choice but to believe that way. As crazy as it seems, I can kind of understand in a way, because, even though my mind knows better, I feel like some part of me still feels like my soul must be black and corrupted now because I have abandoned religion.
Since accepting doctrines that make no sense to me is not an option, I have to find some other way to change that old programming and reclaim the feelling of innocence I had as a child.
Since things that children absorb at a young age are so permanent in ways, I tend to feel it's wrong to put religious ideas into thier young minds.
If those ideas are so right and true, then why not leave them to see them for themselves when the time is right instead of hammering it into them when they are young so they have no choice?
Of course, intelectually they are free to believe what they choose, but those feelings of guilt and shame instilled early on, when a child's mind is still develloping, are not easy to get rid of.



Nice colours :)

What my parents did was not push religon on me but just enforce it slightly - we never went to the temple regularly and we did the usual diwali and that but it wasnt forced onto us which was nice because now i want to know more about it and i came to (well i feel like i did) by myself. I mean maybe it was subconsious but im happy like this because i never HAD to be Hindu (which is what i am if you hadnt noticed)


And being yourself doesnt mean being a loner. I never conformed. Well ok in primary school, i was young new school i needed friends... But generally nowadays i think it depends on what your personality is like and if youre a nice fun person then friends will come.

Nice colours :)

What my parents did was not push religon on me but just enforce it slightly - we never went to the temple regularly and we did the usual diwali and that but it wasnt forced onto us which was nice because now i want to know more about it and i came to (well i feel like i did) by myself. I mean maybe it was subconsious but im happy like this because i never HAD to be Hindu (which is what i am if you hadnt noticed)


And being yourself doesnt mean being a loner. I never conformed. Well ok in primary school, i was young new school i needed friends... But generally nowadays i think it depends on what your personality is like and if youre a nice fun person then friends will come.Yeah, children should be given the time to make up thier own minds about religion.

I was mostly a loner because I pushed people away....I had issues. I'm not like that now though...or hope not anyway.:eek:

Yeah I guess lookin at it, I do push people away. Should I stop? I mean the people I'm pushing away are my classmates, they know me for who I was when I wasn't awake yet. They all think I'm someone I'm not, so I have a bad reputation for who I used to be. Well my own damn fault, but you gotta learn some way even if the way I chose was a hard one.

Also unfortunately, I grew up in the Presbyterian Church and had no choice but to be HEAVILY involved and indoctrinated. Although it was a friendly environment with some intelligence, it was also the place where I first witnessed corruption. Where I first saw spoiled children and abusive parents. Where I first saw people who said they were Christians and said they didn't sin (or at least acted like it), where I was first lied too. Where I was first rejected, where I first found love, where I found God, Where I realized it was all fake and wrong. That church selfdestructed when a corrupt new pastor came in. The church split into two factions and half the people left.

That day was the end of my childhood as I remember it. The pastor had fired the music leader because he didn't like her personaility (she is a little odd (who isn't), but that is HER personality, and she is a nice person. Actually I can see now why that event happened that way. It allowed me to see the church for what it really was and allowed me to see human corruption in its purest form. Like the decay of plant matter, movements arise healthy strong and idealistic. The hippies, the punks, the the renaisannce, and etc. Eventually they become corrupt and an evil bug comes in, destroys it, leaving money and screams in its wake. The shell of the society remains and sometimes begines to seed again.

OFF THE EDGE OF THE WORLD!

Yeah I guess lookin at it, I do push people away. Should I stop? I mean the people I'm pushing away are my classmates, they know me for who I was when I wasn't awake yet. They all think I'm someone I'm not, so I have a bad reputation for who I used to be. Well my own damn fault, but you gotta learn some way even if the way I chose was a hard one.

Also unfortunately, I grew up in the Presbyterian Church and had no choice but to be HEAVILY involved and indoctrinated. Although it was a friendly environment with some intelligence, it was also the place where I first witnessed corruption. Where I first saw spoiled children and abusive parents. Where I first saw people who said they were Christians and said they didn't sin (or at least acted like it), where I was first lied too. Where I was first rejected, where I first found love, where I found God, Where I realized it was all fake and wrong. That church selfdestructed when a corrupt new pastor came in. The church split into two factions and half the people left.

That day was the end of my childhood as I remember it. The pastor had fired the music leader because he didn't like her personaility (she is a little odd (who isn't), but that is HER personality, and she is a nice person. Actually I can see now why that event happened that way. It allowed me to see the church for what it really was and allowed me to see human corruption in its purest form. Like the decay of plant matter, movements arise healthy strong and idealistic. The hippies, the punks, the the renaisannce, and etc. Eventually they become corrupt and an evil bug comes in, destroys it, leaving money and screams in its wake. The shell of the society remains and sometimes begines to seed again.

OFF THE EDGE OF THE WORLD!
Yeah, everthing is cyclical...like the flowers budding blossoming and decaying or the moon waxing and waning, an orgasm rushing, exploding, and fading, or maybe a good headrush doing the same.

I know what you mean about people seeing you for who you were instead of who you are. I've been there. It never changes, but you get used to it.

Well I'm gonna be going to college, and I plan on keeping very few of my friends from my hometown. Very few people here are my true friends, and no one here has anything left to offer me. Like the cycles we were just talking about, I have gone through the cycles with this social area. I was a nobody, I was a somebody, I left. But now I'm stuck here physically even though mentally I am so far away...

Well I can definitely relate to being mentally far away.

"Caus in my head there's a greyhound station
where I send my thoughts on far off destinations
Where they may may have a chance
of finding a place where they're far more suited than here"

i miss my soulmate...

something sacred

I just want a bowl packed every time I get home.. so far things are goin pretty good.

At my age which is 45, may be odd to hear, parental advice and guidance is what I wish for. Growing up I had no parents, my grandparents raised me till they passed in my teens then I was a home for girls for a while. My mom and dad left us when we were babies.


I now have teen kids of my own and just don't know what to do or where to turn for advice on my oldest son who is 18. He is always high, in trouble with the law, and just really screwing up. I am just heartbroken and don't know what to do with him. I feel I failed him....

At this exact moment in time I want something to do on a dull winter saturday night besides go to a party. If it was nice outside right now then I wouldn't be bored though...


I normally don't have a problem entertaining myself but right now I just out of ideas.

...Maybe its not too cold to have a bonfire... It is a little dark for that though... Finding firewood in the cold night isn't fun...

...But now i'm off topic so I'll leave haha.

There's a piece of me missing, no clue what it is yet, but somewhere in this void universe, I will find it!

What would make me feel complete and satisfied? Really good drugs, or.....not worrying about what would make me feel complete and satisfied.

The reason most people never find happiness is that they never learn to stop chasing it. Blame our consumption driven culture for a large part of that.
It’s really interesting how you blame one way of filling up emptiness but glorify another...it might just be possible that humans are incapable of stop pursuing, wether its money or drugs/common

It’s really interesting how you blame one way of filling up emptiness but glorify another...it might just be possible that humans are incapable of stop pursuing, wether its money or drugs/common
What we need then is something to pursue... it's not the having, it's the thrill of the chase so to speak, the anticipation that is most of the thrill.

WHat Do I need badly ?
Thats easy....I think i need to grow a thicker skin so that things dont wound me so badly , and i dont get hurt so easily , even if i say i dont...in truth i do.