That's what "holistic" means, right? The WHOLE picture.

Diet is important, but an awful lot of people approach the
issue with a sin/virtue mentality and the fundamental
belief that the body is inherently prone to illness.

I see these people in natural and health-food stores all
the time. They have "perfect" diets and they are never
healthy and never comfortable.

The simple fact is, that the human body is inherently
healthy. If that wasn't the case there wouldn't _be_
a human race. Modern medicine and nutrional science
are very recent things. And most of the people who lived
before us, like the Native Americans, were much healthier
than we are.

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Sidebar

Note that their diets consisted of, on average, 85% or
better plant foods. It wasn't the "warriors" with their bows
and arrows that fed the tribe, it was the women and children
and elders, collecting wild edible plants or growing them in
their gardens.

Many of the Native American tribes were expert farmers,
and they taught _us_ how to farm. Many of our current
staples came from them: Corn (maize for you Europeans),
beans, squash, cucumbers, potatoes, peppers, etc.

And tomatoes. There were no tomatoes in Italian cooking
until tomatoes arrived from the New World a few hundred
years ago.

A very good book on this subject is Jack Weatherford's
"Indian Givers: How the Indians of the Americas
Transformed the World"

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So eat sensibly but ignore the propaganda of the Medical
Industrial Complex and believe in the truth, which is that
your body, like any natural ecosystem, is inherently
healthy.

Eating sensibly means eating mostly or all plants that are
grown nearby and naturally and are reasonably fresh and
uncontaminated with preservatives or other chemicals
and not overly processsed.

Remember: The Medical Industrial Complex only makes money
if you're sick, or afraid of being sick, so despite the good
intentions of many practicioners, you have to keep in mind that
their corporate bosses (investors) have the final say.

"To be healthy, you have to believe in health." --Seth

Littlefoot

Thanks for starting this thread. Good topic! :)

Good Seth quote too.

My favorite is "You create your own reality!"

And that goes for your own body, too.

Thanks for starting this thread. Good topic! :)

Good Seth quote too.

My favorite is "You create your own reality!"

And that goes for your own body, too.

Sure does, Skip.

For others tuning in:

"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts

"Part Two: Your Body as Your Own Unique Living Sculpture.
Your Life as Your Most Intimate Work of Art, and the Nature
of Creativity as it Applies to Your Personal Experience."

Here's another favorite Seth quote of mine:

"Nature _is_ supernatural."

LIttlefoot

"I'm a Plant Eaaaaaaaateeeeeer" *sings to the rythmn of the Nelly Furtado song and runs ashamed* haha :)
(no, I dont like that song)

"It's all in the mind". I've spent since my last years of highschool saying that, still true, still say it. I mean I've seen how if Im "sick" I can make myself worse or better by just changing my mentality and it's like that with just everything.

"I'm a Plant Eaaaaaaaateeeeeer" *sings to the rythmn of the Nelly Furtado song and runs ashamed* haha :)
(no, I dont like that song)

"It's all in the mind". I've spent since my last years of highschool saying that, still true, still say it. I mean I've seen how if Im "sick" I can make myself worse or better by just changing my mentality and it's like that with just everything.

Pretty sharp for a high school 'kid'. It _is_ all in our minds. We live in the
body of our beliefs. They aren't physical. They are an 'electromagnetic
pattern' that lies just 'beneath' the surface of physical reality. Or just
'above' it.

But you've got to be practical, too.

And I think that being practical is what _this_ forum is about.

Maybe we need another one here devoted to the role of the mind
in health.

You listening, Skip?

Oh. I'm a plant eater too. Nothing but plants. For longer than you've
been alive.

This time, anyway.....

Nice ta meet ya,

LIttlefoot

Ideas represent your psychic intent. They generate emotion and
imagination. These activate the interior patterns. They are
the motive force of action, the means by which all interior
events are exteriorized. They are energy formed and directed,
formulations of interior and exterior patterns of reality. They
are a part of the creative force from which all realities spring.
[...] Imagination and emotion are the most concentrated forms of
energy that you possess as physical creatures. Any strong emotion
carries within far more energy than, say, that required to send
a rocket to the moon. (Session 625 - The Nature of Personal
Reality)

no.. it was not the "warriors" that fed the tribes.. it were the huntsmen.. whether you want to believe it or not.. the native americans depended heavily on hunting.. hunting all sorts of animals fron deer to buffalo.. they hunted these creatures for their hides.. and other body parts for weapons.. but the native americans did not believe in waste so they did eat the flesh.. i understand you're trying to get the point across that they did eat veggies/berries/fruit/roots.. but dont make it sound like thats all they did

I think what he was trying to say was that they were healthier, because their food was fresh and completely natural. I dont think he was trying to say that they didnt hunt or ate meat.
Just think about today's food, meat, veggies, everything. It's all so processed and "made better" to last "longer". I just think the OP was making a point on the benefits of organic food.

^^^ well if that is the case.. sorry to the OP.. I totally agree with the fact that food is processed in a manor way less than pleasing.. but it don't make things easy when organics are insanely expensive compared to non-organic.. less is involved in organics.. no pesticides.. no preservatives.. no enhancers... but yet its more expensive???

... organics are insanely expensive compared to non-organic.. less is involved in organics.. no pesticides.. no preservatives.. no enhancers... but yet its more expensive???There are a few reasons for that. One is that Organic Farming & Gardening is often more labor intensive. But the biggest reason is plain old supply and demand.
High demand + low supply = high prices.

Peace,
poor_old_dad

"I'm a Plant Eaaaaaaaateeeeeer" *sings to the rythmn of the Nelly Furtado song and runs ashamed* haha :)
(no, I dont like that song)

"It's all in the mind". I've spent since my last years of highschool saying that, still true, still say it. I mean I've seen how if Im "sick" I can make myself worse or better by just changing my mentality and it's like that with just everything.


I LOVE that song!! lol...

I remember when i kept being sick (it was horrible) i told myself i wasnt ill, i wasnt sick and i felt fine... It kept the pain at bay... I wonder if it works with colds seeing as im always with one of those...

Though i have to say Yoga seriously helped my family. It really did.

Round here alot of Organic stuff isnt that much more expensive save a few foods...

I LOVE that song!! lol...

I remember when i kept being sick (it was horrible) i told myself i wasnt ill, i wasnt sick and i felt fine... It kept the pain at bay... I wonder if it works with colds seeing as im always with one of those...

Though i have to say Yoga seriously helped my family. It really did.

Round here alot of Organic stuff isnt that much more expensive save a few foods...If it seems like you always have a cold, it could be an allergy to something in your environment or too much dairy products, or a combo of both.

Mold, pollen, pet dander, air pollution, can all mimic the symptoms of a chronic cold. All these things didn't used to cause such allergic reactions as they do now, that's because we're exposed to so many toxins in our lives that we've become much more sensitive to toxins and irritants in our environment.

If it seems like you always have a cold, it could be an allergy to something in your environment or too much dairy products, or a combo of both.

Mold, pollen, pet dander, air pollution, can all mimic the symptoms of a chronic cold. All these things didn't used to cause such allergic reactions as they do now, that's because we're exposed to so many toxins in our lives that we've become much more sensitive to toxins and irritants in our environment.I suffer from really bad allergies too. Basically to dust and pollen, things that are EVERYWHERE. It's funny because back in Santo Domingo they were so much worse than here in Ottawa and even when Im in US, they arent as bad as they were back home.
I can even breathe normally, to me that's a luxury.

I would like to add here that your mental attitude towards your health is essential if you are going to make a big change in your diet.

You have to believe that you can improve yourself, and that changing your diet is a positive step towards that goal.

It really helps to envision yourself healthier, happier, more energetic, more focused and more self-confident as a result of your actions to improve your diet.

And changing your diet should be just one part of your overall plan to improve your health. Exercise, too, should be included.

For those considering a fast, mental attitude is everything! Fasting tests your willpower like nothing else, except perhaps stopping smoking.

So it's smart to psyche yourself up for a fast. Depending upon your motivation for the fast you can envision yourself having achieved whatever goals you've chosen. Let that be your fallback mental set when you feel yourself giving into hunger.

What I do is accept my body's responses to the fast as being a GOOD thing. So when hunger pangs occur, each one reminds me that what I'm doing is WORKING, and that I'm on the path to successfully meeting my goal(s).

So rather than respond to a hunger pang with thoughts of food, I respond with thoughts of continuing the fast because it's working so well. In fact I envision with each pang of hunger, more fat cells being accessed and re-digested.

I know that each hunger pang is a positive sign because from previous experience I must experience that hunger to feel better and get healtier. So I've altered the associative paths in my brain to see hunger as something positive, with a reward response, rather than something requiring a urgent response of consumption.

This is analogous to the natural response to fasting after three days, when the body switches from burning sugar reserves to fat reserves. You lose your hunger pangs because the body no longer needs an outside source for energy.

It's that same switch that we can access through our minds if we try. The hunger pains might still persist for the first three days, but we can certainly temper our response by changing our attitude towards them.

I suffer from really bad allergies too. Basically to dust and pollen, things that are EVERYWHERE. It's funny because back in Santo Domingo they were so much worse than here in Ottawa and even when Im in US, they arent as bad as they were back home.
I can even breathe normally, to me that's a luxury.Dairy products can exacerbate allergies by increasing the mucus supply. Have you tried using an air filter? Those can be well worth the investment (get a good one!) They work excellent on dust and pollen.

BTW, I just read that Canada's dairy products contain the highest levels of trans-fats in the world! Something like 7% of total fat, much higher than most other countries. So you might want to cut back on dairy products, not just because they are bad for allergies.