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IlUvMuSIc
10-01-2007, 04:56 PM
We're currently reading Lord of the Flies by William Golding and i was wondering what people thought of it. I like it, but thats just me... Anyhoo any thoughts?
We havent finished though... So like please please no spoliers. Apparently it kills the tension.

phoenix_indigo
10-01-2007, 05:02 PM
can you believe (and yes i'm shocked at myself) i have never read this?
i never even watched the film!

so well, i'm not much good at responding to this. i really can't believe i've never read it though. *disappointed at self*

Peace-Phoenix
10-02-2007, 02:31 AM
It's one of my favourite novels and one of the greater literary influences on my work....

lithium
10-02-2007, 09:43 AM
I haven't read it since school, but it's still a very vivid memory; I think it was one of the first books that got me interested in the power of literature:)

The 1963 Peter Brook film version is something of a classic too:)

dhARmaMiLlO
10-02-2007, 01:10 PM
I lived through it at crimean-war millitary boarding school in an old castle in Scotland.
Can't offer any thoughts on the book besides IT CAN ALL BE TRUE.

fountains of nay
10-04-2007, 01:28 PM
I love this novel. Literary genius! Can't thank my GCSE English teacher enough for teaching us this instead of "Of Mice and Men"!!!!!!!!!!!

IlUvMuSIc
10-04-2007, 07:00 PM
So no one has any insight? Anything? Anything at all?

Peace-Phoenix
10-05-2007, 02:25 AM
So no one has any insight? Anything? Anything at all?
“Kill the Pig, cut his throat, spill his blood”

lithium
10-05-2007, 08:03 PM
So no one has any insight? Anything? Anything at all?I would approach it as a rejection of Rousseau's conception of the noble savage:)

Peace-Phoenix
10-12-2007, 01:48 AM
I would approach it as a rejection of Rousseau's conception of the noble savage:)
Although that handles the implicit message of the darkness of man's heart, that we are not inherently good creatures, seeing it as a rejection of Rousseau's conception of the noble savage would blunt its power as a fable reflecting the barbarity of the 'civilised' adult world as well. Perhaps it might be better to see it more as an extention of Hobbes' conception of the state of nature. :)

IlUvMuSIc
10-19-2007, 04:54 PM
Although that handles the implicit message of the darkness of man's heart, that we are not inherently good creatures, seeing it as a rejection of Rousseau's conception of the noble savage would blunt its power as a fable reflecting the barbarity of the 'civilised' adult world as well. Perhaps it might be better to see it more as an extention of Hobbes' conception of the state of nature. :)

ohh yeah we had to do about Rousseau and Hobbes, then The Cold War, then we had to do about the brain - Id, Super Ego and the Ego etc...

myself
12-31-2007, 10:10 AM
Nature vs culture (civilization). Civilized is good... uncivilized is not good. Not the noble savage...

Peace-Phoenix
12-31-2007, 10:42 AM
Whilst that's certainly true, I think that misses the most crucial point that the civilised, adult world is every bit as brutal and barbarous as represented by the ship that comes to rescue the boys. A military cruiser in a world at war....

CrucifiedDreams
01-02-2008, 04:26 AM
I like the underlying messages, and it was okay, but definitely not one of my favourite books.

Peace-Phoenix
01-02-2008, 07:10 AM
I like the underlying messages, and it was okay, but definitely not one of my favourite books.
You're entitled to that opinion. You're wrong, but it's ok, you're allowed to be wrong in a free society :tongue: